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Muon's matrix-level update couples two distinct effects: spectral control via a polar map, and equivariance under orthogonal changes of multiplicity-space basis (Schur gauge-equivariance). We separate them with PolarAdamW, a controlled…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-11 Haozhou Zhang

Recommender systems (RecSys) are increasingly emphasizing scaling, leveraging larger architectures and more interaction data to improve personalization. Yet, despite the optimizer's pivotal role in training, modern RecSys pipelines almost…

Information Retrieval · Computer Science 2026-03-03 Rong Shan , Aofan Yu , Bo Chen , Kuo Cai , Qiang Luo , Ruiming Tang , Han Li , Weiwen Liu , Weinan Zhang , Jianghao Lin

The rapid scaling of large language models (LLMs) has made low-precision training essential for reducing memory, improving efficiency, and enabling larger models and datasets. Existing convergence theories for adaptive optimizers, however,…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-03-03 Xuan Tang , Jichu Li , Difan Zou

In this note, we inspect the convergence of a new optimizer for pretraining LLMs, namely the Muon optimizer. Such an optimizer is closely related to a specialized steepest descent method where the update direction is the minimizer of the…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-06-03 Jiaxiang Li , Mingyi Hong

In this paper, we introduce a model for analyzing deep learning optimization over a single iteration by leveraging the matrix structure of the weights. We derive the model by assuming isotropy of curvature, including the second-order…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-11-04 Weijie Su

Modern deep learning commonly relies on AdamW with prescribed learning rate schedules, but recent works challenge both components: Schedule-Free optimization removes explicit schedules via iterate averaging, and Muon improves the update…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-22 Jueun Kim , Baekrok Shin , Jihun Yun , Beomhan Baek , Minhak Song , Chulhee Yun

The recent empirical success of the Muon optimizer has renewed interest in non-Euclidean optimization, typically justified by similarities with second-order methods, and linear minimization oracle (LMO) theory. In this paper, we challenge…

Optimization in machine learning, both theoretical and applied, is presently dominated by first-order gradient methods such as stochastic gradient descent. Second-order optimization methods, that involve second derivatives and/or second…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2021-03-08 Rohan Anil , Vineet Gupta , Tomer Koren , Kevin Regan , Yoram Singer

Recent optimizers like Muon, Scion, and Gluon have pushed the frontier of large-scale deep learning by exploiting layer-wise linear minimization oracles (LMOs) over non-Euclidean norm balls, capturing neural network structure in ways…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-02 Kaja Gruntkowska , Alexander Gaponov , Zhirayr Tovmasyan , Peter Richtárik

Modern adaptive optimization methods, such as Adam and its variants, have emerged as the most widely used tools in deep learning over recent years. These algorithms offer automatic mechanisms for dynamically adjusting the update step based…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-02-12 Son Nguyen , Bo Liu , Lizhang Chen , Qiang Liu

Modern optimizers, like Muon, impose matrix-wise geometry constraints on their updates. These matrix-wise constraints can be unified under Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO) theory. However, all current methods impose fixed LMO geometries for…

Artificial Intelligence · Computer Science 2026-05-20 Thomas Massena , Corentin Friedrich , Mathieu Serrurier

DiLoCo is a powerful framework for training large language models (LLMs), enabling larger optimal batch sizes and increased accelerator utilization under networking constraints. However, DiLoCo's performance has been shown to degrade as the…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-26 Benjamin Thérien , Xiaolong Huang , Aaron Defazio , Irina Rish , Eugene Belilovsky

Recently, Muon and related spectral optimizers have demonstrated strong empirical performance as scalable stochastic methods, often outperforming Adam. Yet their behaviour remains poorly understood. We analyze stochastic spectral…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2026-05-12 Elliot Paquette , Noah Marshall , Lucas Benigni , Guangyuan Wang , Atish Agarwala , Courtney Paquette

Recent developments in deep learning optimization have brought about radically new algorithms based on the Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO) framework, such as $\sf Muon$ and $\sf Scion$. After over a decade of $\sf Adam$'s dominance, these…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-05-20 Artem Riabinin , Egor Shulgin , Kaja Gruntkowska , Peter Richtárik

In this article, we explore the use of various matrix norms for optimizing functions of weight matrices, a crucial problem in training large language models. Moving beyond the spectral norm underlying the Muon update, we leverage duals of…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-12-11 Alexey Kravatskiy , Ivan Kozyrev , Nikolai Kozlov , Alexander Vinogradov , Daniil Merkulov , Ivan Oseledets

Orthonormalized updates accelerate training, improve stability, and enable robust hyperparameter transfer, but existing methods like Muon rely on dense matrix operations that clash with sharded weights in large-scale LLM training, causing…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-09-16 Kwangjun Ahn , Byron Xu , Natalie Abreu , Ying Fan , Gagik Magakyan , Pratyusha Sharma , Zheng Zhan , John Langford

Recent developments have shown that Muon-type optimizers based on linear minimization oracles (LMOs) over non-Euclidean norm balls have the potential to get superior practical performance than Adam-type methods in the training of large…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-04-14 Xun Qian , Alexander Gaponov , Grigory Malinovsky , Peter Richtárik

Prompt tuning, like CoOp, has recently shown promising vision recognizing and transfer learning ability on various downstream tasks with the emergence of large pre-trained vision-language models like CLIP. However, we identify that existing…

Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition · Computer Science 2024-07-16 Yongzhu Miao , Shasha Li , Jintao Tang , Ting Wang

The muon optimizer has picked up much attention as of late as a possible replacement to the seemingly omnipresent Adam optimizer. Recently, care has been taken to document the scaling laws of hyper-parameters under muon such as weight decay…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-05-09 Devan Selvaraj

The use of momentum in stochastic optimization algorithms has shown empirical success across a range of machine learning tasks. Recently, a new class of stochastic momentum algorithms has emerged within the Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO)…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-12-16 Sarit Khirirat , Abdurakhmon Sadiev , Yury Demidovich , Peter Richtárik
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