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We study differentially private (DP) training with Muon, a matrix-valued optimizer that updates hidden-layer weights using momentum followed by Newton--Schulz orthogonalization. While DP-SGD is well understood, the interaction between…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-05-14 Jihwan Kim , Chenglin Fan

Optimizers play an important role in both pretraining and finetuning stages when training large language models (LLMs). In this paper, we present an observation that full finetuning with the same optimizer as in pretraining achieves a…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-05-08 Yuxing Liu , Jianyu Wang , Tong Zhang

DiLoCo is a powerful framework for training large language models (LLMs), enabling larger optimal batch sizes and increased accelerator utilization under networking constraints. However, DiLoCo's performance has been shown to degrade as the…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-02-26 Benjamin Thérien , Xiaolong Huang , Aaron Defazio , Irina Rish , Eugene Belilovsky

Commonly used optimization algorithms often show a trade-off between good generalization and fast training times. For instance, stochastic gradient descent (SGD) tends to have good generalization; however, adaptive gradient methods have…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2023-06-14 Aditya Cowsik , Tankut Can , Paolo Glorioso

Spectral gradient descent (SpecGD) orthogonalizes the matrix parameter updates and has inspired practical optimizers such as Muon. They often perform well in large language model (LLM) training, but their dynamics remain poorly understood.…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-02-09 Changmin Kang , Jihun Yun , Baekrok Shin , Yeseul Cho , Chulhee Yun

Recently, a new optimization method based on the linear minimization oracle (LMO), called Muon, has been attracting increasing attention since it can train neural networks faster than existing adaptive optimization methods, such as Adam. In…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2025-10-01 Yuki Takezawa , Anastasia Koloskova , Xiaowen Jiang , Sebastian U. Stich

Recent developments in deep learning optimization have brought about radically new algorithms based on the Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO) framework, such as $\sf Muon$ and $\sf Scion$. After over a decade of $\sf Adam$'s dominance, these…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2025-05-20 Artem Riabinin , Egor Shulgin , Kaja Gruntkowska , Peter Richtárik

Muon improves neural-network training by orthogonalizing matrix-valued updates, but it leaves each layer's update magnitude controlled mostly by a global learning rate. We introduce OrScale, a trust-ratio extension of Muon built on a simple…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-05-11 Yuxuan Lou , Yang You

Muon has recently shown promising results in LLM training. In this work, we study how to further improve Muon. We argue that Muon's orthogonalized update rule suppresses the emergence of heavy-tailed weight spectra and over-emphasizes the…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-05-25 Tianyu Pang , Yujie Fang , Zihang Liu , Shenyang Deng , Lei Hsiung , Shuhua Yu , Yaoqing Yang

The Muon optimizer has recently offered a promising alternative to AdamW for large language model training, leveraging matrix orthogonalization to produce geometry-aware updates. However, like all first-order methods, Muon can become…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-05-27 Jiacheng Li , Jianchao Tan , Hongtao Xu , Jiaqi Zhang , Yifan Lu , Yerui Sun , Yuchen Xie , Xunliang Cai

The rapid scaling of large language models (LLMs) has made low-precision training essential for reducing memory, improving efficiency, and enabling larger models and datasets. Existing convergence theories for adaptive optimizers, however,…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-03-03 Xuan Tang , Jichu Li , Difan Zou

Recent developments have shown that Muon-type optimizers based on linear minimization oracles (LMOs) over non-Euclidean norm balls have the potential to get superior practical performance than Adam-type methods in the training of large…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-04-14 Xun Qian , Alexander Gaponov , Grigory Malinovsky , Peter Richtárik

In this paper, we introduce a model for analyzing deep learning optimization over a single iteration by leveraging the matrix structure of the weights. We derive the model by assuming isotropy of curvature, including the second-order…

最优化与控制 · 数学 2025-11-04 Weijie Su

A central question in modern deep learning is how to design optimizers whose behavior remains stable as the network width $w$ increases. We address this question by interpreting several widely used neural-network optimizers, including…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-03-11 Ruihan Xu , Jiajin Li , Yiping Lu

Modern optimizers, like Muon, impose matrix-wise geometry constraints on their updates. These matrix-wise constraints can be unified under Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO) theory. However, all current methods impose fixed LMO geometries for…

人工智能 · 计算机科学 2026-05-20 Thomas Massena , Corentin Friedrich , Mathieu Serrurier

Stochastic gradient descent (SGD) with momentum is widely used for training modern deep learning architectures. While it is well-understood that using momentum can lead to faster convergence rate in various settings, it has also been…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2022-07-14 Samy Jelassi , Yuanzhi Li

Conventional wisdom in deep learning optimization dictates updating all layers at every step-a principle followed by all recent state-of-the-art optimizers such as Muon. In this work, we challenge this assumption, showing that full-network…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2025-10-03 Kaja Gruntkowska , Yassine Maziane , Zheng Qu , Peter Richtárik

The muon optimizer has picked up much attention as of late as a possible replacement to the seemingly omnipresent Adam optimizer. Recently, care has been taken to document the scaling laws of hyper-parameters under muon such as weight decay…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2025-05-09 Devan Selvaraj

The pursuit of faster optimization algorithms remains an active and important research direction in deep learning. Recently, the Muon optimizer [JJB+24] has demonstrated promising empirical performance, but its theoretical foundation…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2025-09-30 Lizhang Chen , Jonathan Li , Qiang Liu

Measuring learning progress is essential for curiosity-driven exploration in reinforcement learning, but widely used signals such as prediction error often fail to distinguish meaningful, learnable patterns from random noise. This paper…

机器学习 · 计算机科学 2026-05-08 Samuel Blad , Martin Längkvist , Amy Loutfi