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Some examples of invariably generated groups

Group Theory 2022-07-08 v3

Abstract

A group GG is invariably generated (IG) if there is a subset SGS \subseteq G such that for every subset SGS' \subseteq G, obtained from SS by replacing each element with a conjugate, SS' generates GG. GG is finitely invariably generated (FIG) if, in addition, one can choose such a subset SS to be finite. In this note we construct a FIG group GG with an index 22 subgroup NGN \lhd G such that NN is not IG. This shows that neither property IG nor FIG is stable under passing to subgroups of finite index, answering questions of Wiegold and Kantor, Lubotzky, Shalev. We also produce the first examples of finitely generated IG groups that are not FIG, answering a question of Cox.

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@article{arxiv.2006.02727,
  title  = {Some examples of invariably generated groups},
  author = {Ashot Minasyan},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2006.02727},
  year   = {2022}
}

Comments

15 pages. v2: added a reference to arXiv:2006.05523, which independently obtains similar results. v3: minor revision; this is the accepted version of the article

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