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Invariable generation of certain branch groups

Group Theory 2025-05-29 v3

Abstract

Let GG be a group. Then SGS\subseteq G is an invariable generating set of GG if every subset SS' obtained from SS by replacing each element with a conjugate is also a generating set of GG. We investigate invariable generation among key examples of branch groups. In particular, we prove that all generating sets of the torsion Grigorchuk groups, of the branch Grigorchuk-Gupta-Sidki groups and of the torsion multi-EGS groups (which are natural generalisations of the Grigorchuk-Gupta-Sidki groups) are invariable generating sets. Furthermore, for the first Grigorchuk group and the torsion Grigorchuk-Gupta-Sidki groups, every finitely generated subgroup has a finite invariable generating set. Our results apply to finitely generated groups in MN\mathcal{MN}, the class of groups whose maximal subgroups are all normal. We then obtain that any 22-generated group in MN\mathcal{MN} is almost 32\frac{3}{2}-generated, and end by applying this observation to generating graphs.

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@article{arxiv.2311.14022,
  title  = {Invariable generation of certain branch groups},
  author = {Charles Garnet Cox and Anitha Thillaisundaram},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2311.14022},
  year   = {2025}
}

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8 pages; revised version, with some open questions added to the introduction. The version of record of this article, published in the Bulletin of the Malaysian Mathematical Sciences Society, is available online at: https://doi.org/10.1007/s40840-025-01895-5

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