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Separating versus ordinary Noether numbers

Commutative Algebra 2025-11-25 v1 Group Theory Representation Theory

Abstract

Let GG be a finite group and KK a field containing an element of multiplicative order G|G|. It is shown that if GG has a cyclic subgroup of index at most 22, then the separating Noether number over KK of GG coincides with the Noether number over KK of GG. The same conclusion holds when GG is the direct product of a dihedral group and the 22-element group. On the other hand, the smallest non-abelian groups GG are found for which the separating Noether number over KK is strictly less than the Noether number over KK. Along the way the exact value of the separating Noether number is determined for all groups of order at most 1616. The results show in particular that unlike the ordinary Noether number, the separating Noether number of a non-abelian finite group may well be equal to the separating Noether number of a proper direct factor of the group.

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@article{arxiv.2511.17719,
  title  = {Separating versus ordinary Noether numbers},
  author = {Mátyás Domokos and Barna Schefler},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2511.17719},
  year   = {2025}
}

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An earlier version of this material appeared before as part of arXiv:2412.08621, but has been removed from there

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