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Higher-order Erdos--Szekeres theorems

Computational Geometry 2012-03-23 v3 Combinatorics

Abstract

Let P=(p_1,p_2,...,p_N) be a sequence of points in the plane, where p_i=(x_i,y_i) and x_1<x_2<...<x_N. A famous 1935 Erdos--Szekeres theorem asserts that every such P contains a monotone subsequence S of N\sqrt N points. Another, equally famous theorem from the same paper implies that every such P contains a convex or concave subsequence of Ω(logN)\Omega(\log N) points. Monotonicity is a property determined by pairs of points, and convexity concerns triples of points. We propose a generalization making both of these theorems members of an infinite family of Ramsey-type results. First we define a (k+1)-tuple KPK\subseteq P to be positive if it lies on the graph of a function whose kth derivative is everywhere nonnegative, and similarly for a negative (k+1)-tuple. Then we say that SPS\subseteq P is kth-order monotone if its (k+1)-tuples are all positive or all negative. We investigate quantitative bound for the corresponding Ramsey-type result (i.e., how large kth-order monotone subsequence can be guaranteed in every N-point P). We obtain an Ω(log(k1)N)\Omega(\log^{(k-1)}N) lower bound ((k-1)-times iterated logarithm). This is based on a quantitative Ramsey-type theorem for what we call transitive colorings of the complete (k+1)-uniform hypergraph; it also provides a unified view of the two classical Erdos--Szekeres results mentioned above. For k=3, we construct a geometric example providing an O(loglogN)O(\log\log N) upper bound, tight up to a multiplicative constant. As a consequence, we obtain similar upper bounds for a Ramsey-type theorem for order-type homogeneous subsets in R^3, as well as for a Ramsey-type theorem for hyperplanes in R^4 recently used by Dujmovic and Langerman.

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@article{arxiv.1111.3824,
  title  = {Higher-order Erdos--Szekeres theorems},
  author = {Marek Elias and Jiri Matousek},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:1111.3824},
  year   = {2012}
}

Comments

Contains a counter example of Gunter Rote which gives a reply for the problem number 5 in the previous versions of this paper

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