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Finite groups with large Chebotarev invariant

Group Theory 2018-11-28 v1

Abstract

A subset {g1,,gd}\{g_1, \ldots , g_d\} of a finite group GG is said to invariably generate GG if the set {g1x1,,gdxd}\{g_1^{x_1}, \ldots, g_d^{x_d}\} generates GG for every choice of xiGx_i \in G. The Chebotarev invariant C(G)C(G) of GG is the expected value of the random variable nn that is minimal subject to the requirement that nn randomly chosen elements of GG invariably generate GG. The authors recently showed that for each ϵ>0\epsilon>0, there exists a constant cϵc_{\epsilon} such that C(G)(1+ϵ)G+cϵC(G)\le (1+\epsilon)\sqrt{|G|}+c_{\epsilon}. This bound is asymptotically best possible. In this paper we prove a partial converse: namely, for each α>0\alpha>0 there exists an absolute constant δα\delta_{\alpha} such that if GG is a finite group and C(G)>αGC(G)>\alpha\sqrt{|G|}, then GG has a section X/YX/Y such that X/YδαG|X/Y|\geq \delta_{\alpha}\sqrt{|G|}, and X/YFqHX/Y\cong \mathbb{F}_q\rtimes H for some prime power qq, with HFq×H\le \mathbb{F}_q^{\times}.

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@article{arxiv.1811.10937,
  title  = {Finite groups with large Chebotarev invariant},
  author = {Andrea Lucchini and Gareth Tracey},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:1811.10937},
  year   = {2018}
}
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