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We construct non-isomorphic models M, N, e.g. of cardinality aleph_1 such that in the Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse game of length zeta < omega_1 the isomorphism player wins

Logic · Mathematics 2007-09-25 Saharon Shelah

We prove the existence of pairs of models of the same cardinality lambda which are very equivalent according to EF games, but not isomorphic. We continue the paper math.LO/0404222, but we don't rely on it.

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Chanoch Havlin , Saharon Shelah

Our "long term and large scale" aim is to characterize the first order theories T (at least the countable ones) such that: for every ordinal alpha there lambda,M_1,M_2 such that M_1,M_2 are non-isomorphic models of T of cardinality lambda…

Logic · Mathematics 2017-08-08 Saharon Shelah

We prove that it is relatively consistent with ZF + CH that there exist two models of cardinality \aleph_2 such that the second player has a winning strategy in the Ehrenfeucht-Fra\"iss\'e-game of length \omega_1 but there is no…

Logic · Mathematics 2013-08-02 Saharon Shelah , Jouko Väänänen , Boban Velickovic

We strengthen non-structure theorems for almost free Abelian groups by studying long Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse games between a fixed group of cardinality lambda and a free Abelian group. A group is called epsilon-game-free if the isomorphism…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Saharon Shelah , Pauli Väisänen

Let (A) and (B) be two first order structures of the same vocabulary. We shall consider the Ehrenfeucht-Fra{i}sse-game of length omega_1 of A and B which we denote by G_{omega_1}(A,B). This game is like the ordinary Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse-game…

Logic · Mathematics 2009-09-25 Alan H. Mekler , Saharon Shelah , Jouko Väänänen

We prove that if ZF is consistent then ZFC+GCH is consistent with the following statement: There is for every k<omega a model of cardinality aleph_1 which is L_{infty,omega_1}-equivalent to exactly k non-isomorphic models of cardinality…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Saharon Shelah , Pauli Vaisanen

Let A and B be two first order structures of the same relational vocabulary L. The Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse-game of length gamma of A and B denoted by EFG_gamma(A,B) is defined as follows: There are two players called for all and exists. First…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Tapani Hyttinen , Saharon Shelah , Jouko Väänänen

We study first-order as well as infinitary logics extended with quantifiers closed upwards under embeddings. In particular, we show that if a chain of quasi-homogeneous structures is sufficiently long then a given formula of such a logic is…

Logic · Mathematics 2014-07-04 Jevgeni Haigora , Kerkko Luosto

We introduce two new model comparison games that characterize separability by first-order formulas with generalized quantifiers. One is built on the Ehrenfeucht-Fra\"iss\'e game and the other is a formula-size game.

Logic · Mathematics 2026-05-21 Antti Kuusisto , Miguel Moreno , Matias Selin

Despite considerable research on document spanners, little is known about the expressive power of generalized core spanners. In this paper, we use Ehrenfeucht-Fra\"iss\'e games to obtain general inexpressibility lemmas for the logic FC (a…

Logic in Computer Science · Computer Science 2023-06-29 Sam M. Thompson , Dominik D. Freydenberger

We try to build, provably in ZFC, for a first order T a model in which any isomorphism between two Boolean algebras is definable. The problem, compared to [Sh:384], is with pseudo-finite Boolean algebras. A side benefit is that we do not…

Logic · Mathematics 2016-01-15 Saharon Shelah

It is well-known that the first order Peano axioms PA have a continuum of non-isomorphic countable models. The question, how close to being isomorphic such countable models can be, seems to be less investigated. A measure of closeness to…

Logic · Mathematics 2022-08-30 Tapani Hyttinen , Jouko Väänänen

Let lambda be aleph_0 or a strong limit of cofinality aleph_0. Suppose that (G_m,p_{m,n}:m =< n<omega) and (H_m,p^t_{m,n}: m=< n < omega) are projective systems of groups of cardinality less than lambda and suppose that for every n<omega…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Rami Grossberg , Saharon Shelah

We define a version of the Ehrenfeucht-Fra\"iss\'e game in the setting of metric model theory and continuous first-order logic and show that the second player having a winning strategy in a game of length $n$ exactly corresponds to being…

Logic · Mathematics 2024-04-26 Åsa Hirvonen , Joni Puljujärvi

In S. 1 we deal with amalgamation bases, e.g., we define when an a.e.c. $k$ has $(\lambda,\kappa)$-amalgamation which means "many" M in $K^k_\lambda$ are amalgamation bases. We then consider what happens for the class of lf groups. In S. 2…

Logic · Mathematics 2019-01-29 Saharon Shelah

In this paper, we build Fidel-structures valued models following the methodology developed for Heyting-valued models; recall that Fidel structures are not algebras in the universal algebra sense. Taking models that verify Leibniz law, we…

Logic · Mathematics 2022-10-18 Aldo Figallo-Orellano , Juan Sebastian Slagter

If $f$ is an idempotent in a ring $\Lambda$, then we find sufficient \linebreak conditions which imply that the cohomology rings $\oplus_{n\ge 0}Ext^n_{\Lambda}(\Lambda/{\br},\Lambda/{\br})$ and \linebreak $\oplus_{n\ge 0}Ext^n_{f\Lambda…

Representation Theory · Mathematics 2014-05-07 Edward Green , Dag Madsen , Eduardo N. Marcos

The authors show, by means of a finitary version square^{fin}_{lambda,D} of the combinatorial principle square^{b^*}_{lambda}, the consistency of the failure, relative to the consistency of supercompact cardinals, of the following: for all…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Juliette Kennedy , Saharon Shelah

Given any $\lambda\leq\kappa$, we construct a symmetric extension in which there is a set $X$ such that $\aleph(X)=\lambda$ and $\aleph^*(X)=\kappa$. Consequently, we show that $\mathsf{ZF}+$"For all pairs of infinite cardinals…

Logic · Mathematics 2024-08-16 Asaf Karagila , Calliope Ryan-Smith
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