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The Muon optimizer has rapidly emerged as a powerful, geometry-aware alternative to AdamW, demonstrating strong performance in large-scale training of neural networks. However, a critical theory-practice disconnect exists: Muon's efficiency…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-24 Egor Shulgin , Sultan AlRashed , Francesco Orabona , Peter Richtárik

Muon has recently emerged as a strong alternative to AdamW for training neural networks, with encouraging large-scale pretraining results and growing evidence that matrix-structured updates can be faster in practice. Yet Muon, and more…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-19 Abdurakhmon Sadiev , Artavazd Maranjyan , Ivan Ilin , Peter Richtárik

Recent developments in deep learning optimization have brought about radically new algorithms based on the Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO) framework, such as $\sf Muon$ and $\sf Scion$. After over a decade of $\sf Adam$'s dominance, these…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-05-20 Artem Riabinin , Egor Shulgin , Kaja Gruntkowska , Peter Richtárik

Optimization lies at the core of modern deep learning, yet existing methods often face a fundamental trade-off between adapting to problem geometry and leveraging curvature utilization. Steepest descent algorithms adapt to different…

In this work, we study optimization methods that leverage the linear minimization oracle (LMO) over a norm-ball. We propose a new stochastic family of algorithms that uses the LMO to adapt to the geometry of the problem and, perhaps…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-06-09 Thomas Pethick , Wanyun Xie , Kimon Antonakopoulos , Zhenyu Zhu , Antonio Silveti-Falls , Volkan Cevher

Hyperparameter transfer has become an important component of modern large-scale training recipes. Existing methods, such as muP, primarily focus on transfer between model sizes, with transfer across batch sizes and training horizons often…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-03-18 Egor Shulgin , Dimitri von Rütte , Tianyue H. Zhang , Niccolò Ajroldi , Bernhard Schölkopf , Antonio Orvieto

Adversarial training (AT) remains one of the most reliable empirical defenses against adversarial attacks. Its robustness critically depends on how the underlying min-max objective is optimized. In practice, Stochastic Gradient Descent…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-27 Jun Yan , Weiquan Huang , Jiankai Zuo , Yujian Mo , Xi Fang , Chengliang Wu , Zeming Wei

The use of momentum in stochastic optimization algorithms has shown empirical success across a range of machine learning tasks. Recently, a new class of stochastic momentum algorithms has emerged within the Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO)…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-12-16 Sarit Khirirat , Abdurakhmon Sadiev , Yury Demidovich , Peter Richtárik

Muon and related normalized optimizers decouple the choice of update direction from the choice of step scale, but their practical performance remains sensitive to the scale of the normalized step. We study adaptive scaling rules for Muon in…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-20 Yury Demidovich , Abhishek Chakraborty , Grigory Malinovsky , Angelia Nedić , Peter Richtárik

Efficient stochastic optimization typically integrates an update direction that performs well in the deterministic regime with a mechanism adapting to stochastic perturbations. While Adam uses adaptive moment estimates to promote stability,…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-23 Minxin Zhang , Yuxuan Liu , Hayden Schaeffer

The recent empirical success of the Muon optimizer has renewed interest in non-Euclidean optimization, typically justified by similarities with second-order methods, and linear minimization oracle (LMO) theory. In this paper, we challenge…

Muon has recently emerged as a competitive alternative to AdamW for large-scale pre-training, with orthogonalization via Newton-Schulz (NS) iterations as its core operation. Existing Muon variants apply a uniform NS schedule to all…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-19 Xinlin Zhuang , Panyi Ouyang , Yichen Li , Jiangming Shi , Yizhang Chen , Shuman Liu , Ying Qian , Weiyang Liu , Haibo Zhang , Imran Razzak

A striking geometric disparity has long persisted in the practice of deep learning. While modern neural network architectures naturally exhibit rich symmetry and equivariance properties, popular optimizers such as Adam and its variants…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2026-05-27 Tim Tsz-Kit Lau , Weijie Su

The recently proposed Muon optimizer updates weight matrices via orthogonalized momentum and has demonstrated strong empirical success in large language model training. However, it remains unclear how to determine the learning rates for…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-09-09 Minxin Zhang , Yuxuan Liu , Hayden Schaeffer

The Muon optimizer has recently attracted considerable attention for its strong empirical performance and use of orthogonalized updates on matrix-shaped parameters, yet its underlying mechanisms and relationship to adaptive optimizers such…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-05 Xianbiao Qi , Marco Chen , Jiaquan Ye , Yelin He , Rong Xiao

To define a steepest descent method over a neural network, we need to choose a norm for each layer, a way to aggregate these norms across layers, and whether to use normalization. We systematically explore different alternatives for…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-14 Michael Crawshaw , Chirag Modi , Mingrui Liu , Robert M. Gower

Modern adaptive optimization methods, such as Adam and its variants, have emerged as the most widely used tools in deep learning over recent years. These algorithms offer automatic mechanisms for dynamically adjusting the update step based…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-02-12 Son Nguyen , Bo Liu , Lizhang Chen , Qiang Liu

A central challenge in continual learning for large language models (LLMs) is catastrophic forgetting, where adapting to new tasks can substantially degrade performance on previously learned ones. Existing projection-based methods mitigate…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-18 Binghang Lu , Zheyuan Deng , Runyu Zhang , Bing Hu , Yunhan Zhao , Yuan Tian , Changhong Mou , Guang Lin , Xiaomin Li

The majority of parameters in neural networks are naturally represented as matrices. However, most commonly used optimizers treat these matrix parameters as flattened vectors during optimization, potentially overlooking their inherent…

Machine Learning · Statistics 2026-04-15 Wei Shen , Ruichuan Huang , Minhui Huang , Cong Shen , Jiawei Zhang

A central question in modern deep learning is how to design optimizers whose behavior remains stable as the network width $w$ increases. We address this question by interpreting several widely used neural-network optimizers, including…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-03-11 Ruihan Xu , Jiajin Li , Yiping Lu
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