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We construct non-isomorphic models M, N, e.g. of cardinality aleph_1 such that in the Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse game of length zeta < omega_1 the isomorphism player wins

Logic · Mathematics 2007-09-25 Saharon Shelah

We define a version of the Ehrenfeucht-Fra\"iss\'e game in the setting of metric model theory and continuous first-order logic and show that the second player having a winning strategy in a game of length $n$ exactly corresponds to being…

Logic · Mathematics 2024-04-26 Åsa Hirvonen , Joni Puljujärvi

Let (A) and (B) be two first order structures of the same vocabulary. We shall consider the Ehrenfeucht-Fra{i}sse-game of length omega_1 of A and B which we denote by G_{omega_1}(A,B). This game is like the ordinary Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse-game…

Logic · Mathematics 2009-09-25 Alan H. Mekler , Saharon Shelah , Jouko Väänänen

Let A and B be two first order structures of the same relational vocabulary L. The Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse-game of length gamma of A and B denoted by EFG_gamma(A,B) is defined as follows: There are two players called for all and exists. First…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Tapani Hyttinen , Saharon Shelah , Jouko Väänänen

There has been much interest on constructing models which are not isomorphic of cardinality lambda but are equivalent under the Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse game of length alpha even for every alpha<lambda. So under G.C.H. we know much. We deal here…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Saharon Shelah

Two structures $A$ and $B$ are $n$-equivalent if player II has a winning strategy in the $n$-move Ehrenfeucht-Fra\"iss\'e game on $A$ and $B$. In earlier papers we studied $n$-equivalence classes of ordinals and coloured ordinals. In this…

Logic · Mathematics 2018-01-03 Feresiano Mwesigye , John K. Truss

This paper has two parts. The first is concerned with a variant of a family of games introduced by Holy and Schlicht, that we call \emph{Welch games}. Player II having a winning strategy in the Welch game of length $\omega$ on $\kappa$ is…

Logic · Mathematics 2023-08-08 Matthew Foreman , Menachem Magidor , Martin Zeman

We strengthen non-structure theorems for almost free Abelian groups by studying long Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse games between a fixed group of cardinality lambda and a free Abelian group. A group is called epsilon-game-free if the isomorphism…

Logic · Mathematics 2007-05-23 Saharon Shelah , Pauli Väisänen

Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse games are very useful in studying separation and equivalence results in logic. The standard finite Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse game characterizes equivalence in first order logic. The standard Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse game in…

Logic · Mathematics 2012-12-04 Jouko Väänänen , Tong Wang

Two structures A and B are n-equivalent if player II has a winning strategy in the n-move Ehrenfeucht-Fraisse game on A and B. We extend earlier results about n-equivalence for finite coloured linear orders, describing an algorithm for…

Logic · Mathematics 2017-05-15 Feresiano Mwesigye , John K Truss

We prove the consistency of ``CH + 2^{aleph_1} is arbitrarily large + 2^{aleph_1} not-> (omega_1 x omega)^2_2''. If fact, we can get 2^{aleph_1} not-> [omega_1 x omega]^2_{aleph_0}. In addition to this theorem, we give generalizations to…

Logic · Mathematics 2009-09-25 Saharon Shelah

Fragments of first-order logic over words can often be characterized in terms of finite monoids, and identities of omega-terms are an effective mechanism for specifying classes of monoids. Huschenbett and the first author have shown how to…

Logic in Computer Science · Computer Science 2014-11-04 Manfred Kufleitner , Jan Philipp Wächter

We show that under some general conditions the finite memory determinacy of a class of two-player win/lose games played on finite graphs implies the existence of a Nash equilibrium built from finite memory strategies for the corresponding…

Computer Science and Game Theory · Computer Science 2016-07-13 Stéphane Le Roux , Arno Pauly

A famous result in game theory known as Zermelo's theorem says that "in chess either White can force a win, or Black can force a win, or both sides can force at least a draw". The present paper extends this result to the class of all…

Combinatorics · Mathematics 2016-10-25 Rabah Amir , Igor V. Evstigneev

We show that under some general conditions the finite memory determinacy of a class of two-player win/lose games played on finite graphs implies the existence of a Nash equilibrium built from finite memory strategies for the corresponding…

Computer Science and Game Theory · Computer Science 2017-01-03 Stéphane Le Roux , Arno Pauly

We study first-order as well as infinitary logics extended with quantifiers closed upwards under embeddings. In particular, we show that if a chain of quasi-homogeneous structures is sufficiently long then a given formula of such a logic is…

Logic · Mathematics 2014-07-04 Jevgeni Haigora , Kerkko Luosto

Two-player win/lose games of infinite duration are involved in several disciplines including computer science and logic. If such a game has deterministic winning strategies, one may ask how simple such strategies can get. The answer may…

Computer Science and Game Theory · Computer Science 2020-02-04 Stéphane Le Roux

We investigate forms of filter extension properties in the two-cardinal setting involving filters on $P_\kappa(\lambda)$. We generalize the filter games introduced by Holy and Schlicht in \cite{HolySchlicht:HierarchyRamseyLikeCardinals} to…

Logic · Mathematics 2026-02-20 Tom Benhamou , Victoria Gitman

We introduce two new model comparison games that characterize separability by first-order formulas with generalized quantifiers. One is built on the Ehrenfeucht-Fra\"iss\'e game and the other is a formula-size game.

Logic · Mathematics 2026-05-21 Antti Kuusisto , Miguel Moreno , Matias Selin

Consider concurrent, infinite duration, two-player win/lose games played on graphs. If the winning condition satisfies some simple requirement, the existence of Player 1 winning (finite-memory) strategies is equivalent to the existence of…

Logic in Computer Science · Computer Science 2018-05-01 Stephane Le Roux
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