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When action is not least for systems with action-dependent Lagrangians

Classical Physics 2023-03-22 v2 Mathematical Physics math.MP

Abstract

The dynamics of some non-conservative and dissipative systems can be derived by calculating the first variation of an action-dependent action, according to the variational principle of Herglotz. This is directly analogous to the variational principle of Hamilton commonly used to derive the dynamics of conservative systems. In a similar fashion, just as the second variation of a conservative system's action can be used to infer whether that system's possible trajectories are dynamically stable, so too can the second variation of the action-dependent action be used to infer whether the possible trajectories of non-conservative and dissipative systems are dynamically stable. In this paper I show, generalizing earlier analyses of the second variation of the action for conservative systems, how to calculate the second variation of the action-dependent action and how to apply it to two physically important systems: a time-independent harmonic oscillator and a time-dependent harmonic oscillator.

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@article{arxiv.2205.10318,
  title  = {When action is not least for systems with action-dependent Lagrangians},
  author = {Joseph Ryan},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2205.10318},
  year   = {2023}
}

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Accepted for publication in the Journal of Mathematical Physics

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