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Noetherian Properties, Large Cardinals, and Independence Around $\aleph_{\omega}$

Logic 2025-12-12 v1

Abstract

A base of a topological space is called {\em Noetherian } iff it does not contain an infinite strictly \subseteq-increasing chain. We show that minimal cardinality of a regular spaces without a Noetherian base is the first strongly inaccessible cardinal, answering a question from the 1980s. We also study the {\em Noetherian type} of a topological space XX, denoted by Nt(X)Nt(X), defined as the least cardinal κ\kappa such that XX has a base B\mathcal B with {BB:BB}<κ|\{B'\in \mathcal B: B\subset B'\}|<\kappa for each BBB\in \mathcal B. The behavior of the Noetherian type under the GδG_\delta-modification was investigated by Milovich and Spadaro. A central question, posed by them, is whether the Noetherian type of the GδG_{\delta}-modification of the space D(2)ωD(2)^{\aleph_\omega} is ω1\omega_1. This statement, denoted (Nt), is known to be independent of ZFC + GCH: it holds under ``GCH + ω\square_{\aleph_\omega}'', but fails under ``GCH + (ω+1,ω)(1,0)(\aleph_{\omega+1}, \aleph_\omega)\to (\aleph_1, \aleph_0)''. We place this phenomenon in a broader context by identifying similar independence phenomena for several topological and combinatorial principles. These include: (wFN) the weak Freese-Nation property of [ω]ω[\aleph_{\omega}]^{\omega}; (SAT) the existence of a saturated MAD family in [ω]ω[\aleph_{\omega}]^{\omega}; (HnT) the existence of an ω{\omega}-homogeneous, but not ω{\omega}-transitive permutation group on ω\aleph_{\omega}; and (SPL) the existence of a countably compact, locally countable, and ω{\omega}-fair regular space of cardinality ω+1\aleph_{\omega+1}. Assuming GCH, we analyze the logical relationships between these principles and show, for example, that SPL implies wFN, which in turn implies both SAT, HnT and Nt, while SAT does not imply Nt.

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@article{arxiv.2512.10854,
  title  = {Noetherian Properties, Large Cardinals, and Independence Around $\aleph_{\omega}$},
  author = {Lajos Soukup and Zoltán Szentmiklóssy},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2512.10854},
  year   = {2025}
}

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19 pages