A Lower Bound for the Hanf Number for Joint Embedding
Abstract
In [13] the authors show that if is a strongly compact cardinal, is an Abstract Elementary Class (AEC) with , and satisfies joint embedding (amalgamation) cofinally below , then satisfies joint embedding (amalgamation) in all cardinals . The question was raised if the strongly compact upper bound was optimal. In this paper we prove the existence of an AEC that can be axiomatized by an -sentence in a countable vocabulary, so that if is the first measurable cardinal, then (1) satisfies joint embedding cofinally below ; (2) fails joint embedding cofinally below ; and (3) satisfies joint embedding above . Moreover, the example can be generalized to an AEC axiomatized in , in a vocabulary of size , such that (1)-(3) hold with being the first measurable above . This proves that the Hanf number for joint embedding is contained in the interval between the first measurable and the first strongly compact. Since these two cardinals can consistently coincide, the upper bound from [13] is consistently optimal. This is also the first example of a sentence whose joint embedding spectrum is (consistently) neither an initial nor an eventual interval of cardinals. By Theorem 3.26, it is consistent that for any club on the first measurable , JEP holds exactly on and everywhere above .
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@article{arxiv.1808.03017,
title = {A Lower Bound for the Hanf Number for Joint Embedding},
author = {Will Boney and Ioannis Souldatos},
journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:1808.03017},
year = {2022}
}
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