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New Tur\'an densities for 3-graphs

Combinatorics 2015-03-12 v3

Abstract

If F\mathcal{F} is a family of graphs then the Tur\'an density of F\mathcal{F} is determined by the minimum chromatic number of the members of F\mathcal{F}. The situation for Tur\'an densities of 3-graphs is far more complex and still very unclear. Our aim in this paper is to present new exact Tur\'an densities for individual and finite families of 3-graphs, in many cases we are also able to give corresponding stability results. As well as providing new examples of individual 3-graphs with Tur\'an densities equal to 2/9,4/9,5/9 and 3/4 we also give examples of irrational Tur\'an densities for finite families of 3-graphs, disproving a conjecture of Chung and Graham. (Pikhurko has independently disproved this conjecture by a very different method.) A central question in this area, known as Tur\'an's problem, is to determine the Tur\'an density of K4(3)={123,124,134,234}K_4^{(3)}=\{123,124, 134, 234\}. Tur\'an conjectured that this should be 5/9. Razborov [On 3-hypergraphs with forbidden 4-vertex configurations, in SIAM J. Disc. Math. 24 (2010), 946-963] showed that if we consider the induced Tur\'an problem forbidding K4(3)K_4^{(3)} and E1E_1, the 3-graph with 4 vertices and a single edge, then the Tur\'an density is indeed 5/9. We give some new non-induced results of a similar nature, in particular we show that π(K4(3),H)=5/9\pi(K_4^{(3)},H)=5/9 for a 3-graph HH satisfying π(H)=3/4\pi(H)=3/4. We end with a number of open questions focusing mainly on the topic of which values can occur as Tur\'an densities. Our work is mainly computational, making use of Razborov's flag algebra framework. However all proofs are exact in the sense that they can be verified without the use of any floating point operations. Indeed all verifying computations use only integer operations, working either over Q\mathbb{Q} or in the case of irrational Tur\'an densities over an appropriate quadratic extension of Q\mathbb{Q}.

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@article{arxiv.1110.4287,
  title  = {New Tur\'an densities for 3-graphs},
  author = {Rahil Baber and John Talbot},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:1110.4287},
  year   = {2015}
}

Comments

17 pages, 4 figures. Additional files: C++ source code for proof verification and generation; 39 proof files. Revised to include stability theorems

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