Extensional Independence
Abstract
Joel Hamkins asks whether there is a -formula such that is independent over , if this theory is consistent, where this construction is extensional in with respect to -provable equivalence. We show that there can be no such extensional Rosser formula of any complexity. We give a positive answer to Hamkins' question for the case where we replace Extensionality by a weaker demand *Consistent Extensionality*. We also prove that we can demand the negation of to be -conservative, if we ask for the still weaker *Conditional Extensionality*. We show that an intensional version of the result for Conditional Extensionality cannot work.
Cite
@article{arxiv.2506.13524,
title = {Extensional Independence},
author = {Taishi Kurahashi and Albert Visser},
journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2506.13524},
year = {2026}
}
Comments
This preprint extends and supersedes the earlier preprint [arXiv:2502.09109] *On a Question of Hamkins'* by Albert Visser