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Conciseness on normal subgroups and new concise words from outer commutator words

Group Theory 2024-04-02 v1

Abstract

Let w=w(x1,,xr)w=w(x_1,\ldots,x_r) be an outer commutator word. We show that the word w(u1,,ur)w(u_1,\ldots,u_r) is concise whenever u1,,uru_1,\ldots,u_r are non-commutator words in disjoint sets of variables. This applies in particular to words of the form w(x1n1,,xrnr)w(x_1^{n_1},\ldots,x_r^{n_r}), where the nin_i are non-zero integers. Our approach is via the study of values of ww on normal subgroups, and in this setting we obtain the following result: if N1,,NrN_1,\ldots,N_r are normal subgroups of a group GG and the set of all values w(g1,,gr)w(g_1,\ldots,g_r) with giNig_i\in N_i is finite then also the subgroup generated by these values, i.e. w(N1,,Nr)w(N_1,\ldots,N_r), is finite.

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@article{arxiv.2404.00023,
  title  = {Conciseness on normal subgroups and new concise words from outer commutator words},
  author = {Gustavo A. Fernandez-Alcober and Matteo Pintonello},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2404.00023},
  year   = {2024}
}

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arXiv admin note: substantial text overlap with arXiv:2304.06380

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