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Characteristic Subgroup Growth

Group Theory 2025-10-07 v1

Abstract

Let snch(Γ)s_n^\mathrm{ch}(\Gamma) denote the number of characteristic subgroups of index at most nn in a finitely generated group Γ\Gamma. In response to a question of I. Rivin we show that if Γ=Fr\Gamma = F_r is the free group on r2r \geq 2 generators then the growth type of snch(Fr)s_n^{\mathrm{ch}}(F_r) is nlog(n)n^{\mathrm{log}(n)}. This is in contrast with the expectation of W. Thurston who predicted that there should be a difference between r=2r = 2 and r>2r > 2. Along the way we answer a question of arXiv:1703.07866 on the normal subgroup growth of large groups.

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@article{arxiv.2510.04150,
  title  = {Characteristic Subgroup Growth},
  author = {Liam Hanany and Alexander Lubotzky},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2510.04150},
  year   = {2025}
}

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8 pages

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