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We present a comprehensive theoretical and empirical study of the Muon optimizer for training transformers only with a small to medium decoder (30M - 200M parameters), with an emphasis on its mathematical foundations, convergence properties…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-09-30 Sushant Mehta , Raj Dandekar , Rajat Dandekar , Sreedath Panat

The Muon optimizer has demonstrated remarkable empirical success in handling matrix-structured parameters for training neural networks. However, a significant gap remains between its practical performance and theoretical understanding.…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-12 Da Chang , Yongxiang Liu , Ganzhao Yuan

Recently, there is a growing interest in the study of median-based algorithms for distributed non-convex optimization. Two prominent such algorithms include signSGD with majority vote, an effective approach for communication reduction via…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2019-06-07 Xiangyi Chen , Tiancong Chen , Haoran Sun , Zhiwei Steven Wu , Mingyi Hong

In recent years, Muon has emerged as the dominant method for training large language models, and transformers more broadly. The essential difference, when compared to standard gradient descent methods, is to replace the usual update matrix…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-25 Fangzhou Wu , Rikhav Shah , Sandeep Silwal , Qiuyi Zhang

Muon and related normalized optimizers decouple the choice of update direction from the choice of step scale, but their practical performance remains sensitive to the scale of the normalized step. We study adaptive scaling rules for Muon in…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-20 Yury Demidovich , Abhishek Chakraborty , Grigory Malinovsky , Angelia Nedić , Peter Richtárik

The Muon optimizer, based on matrix orthogonalization, has recently shown faster convergence and better computational efficiency over AdamW in LLM pre-training. However, the memory overhead of maintaining high-precision optimizer states…

Sign Gradient Descent (SignGD) is a simple yet robust optimization method, widely used in machine learning for its resilience to gradient noise and compatibility with low-precision computations. While its empirical performance is well…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-08-27 Valentin Leplat , Sergio Mayorga , Roland Hildebrand , Alexander Gasnikov

Sign-based optimization algorithms, such as SignSGD, have garnered significant attention for their remarkable performance in distributed learning and training large foundation models. Despite their empirical superiority, SignSGD is known to…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-04-20 Dingzhi Yu , Rui Pan , Yuxing Liu , Tong Zhang

To define a steepest descent method over a neural network, we need to choose a norm for each layer, a way to aggregate these norms across layers, and whether to use normalization. We systematically explore different alternatives for…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-14 Michael Crawshaw , Chirag Modi , Mingrui Liu , Robert M. Gower

Recently, a new optimization method based on the linear minimization oracle (LMO), called Muon, has been attracting increasing attention since it can train neural networks faster than existing adaptive optimization methods, such as Adam. In…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-01 Yuki Takezawa , Anastasia Koloskova , Xiaowen Jiang , Sebastian U. Stich

Traditional one-bit compressed stochastic gradient descent can not be directly employed in multi-hop all-reduce, a widely adopted distributed training paradigm in network-intensive high-performance computing systems such as public clouds.…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2022-10-14 Feijie Wu , Shiqi He , Song Guo , Zhihao Qu , Haozhao Wang , Weihua Zhuang , Jie Zhang

In this work, we develop proximal preconditioned gradient methods with a focus on spectral gradient methods providing a proximal extension to the Muon and Scion optimizers. We introduce a family of stochastic algorithms that can handle a…

Low-rank gradient compression reduces communication in distributed training by representing updates with rank-$r$ factors. Dion is a recent method that approximates Muon, a spectral optimizer that orthogonalizes momentum, using one step of…

Binary neural networks (BNNs) have attracted broad research interest due to their efficient storage and computational ability. Nevertheless, a significant challenge of BNNs lies in handling discrete constraints while ensuring bit entropy…

Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition · Computer Science 2022-10-05 Mingbao Lin , Rongrong Ji , Zihan Xu , Baochang Zhang , Fei Chao , Chia-Wen Lin , Ling Shao

Distributed optimization is essential for training large models on large datasets. Multiple approaches have been proposed to reduce the communication overhead in distributed training, such as synchronizing only after performing multiple…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2020-02-21 Jianyu Wang , Vinayak Tantia , Nicolas Ballas , Michael Rabbat

Matrix-based preconditioned optimizers, such as Muon, have recently been shown to be more efficient than scalar-based optimizers for training large-scale neural networks, including large language models (LLMs). Recent benchmark studies of…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-02 Yifeng Liu , Angela Yuan , Quanquan Gu

Muon has emerged as a strong competitor to AdamW for language model pre-training, yet its behavior at scale is sensitive to weight decay. Recent work has observed that, for Muon without decoupled weight decay, the spectral norm of weight…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-12 Kai Lion , Florian Hübler , Bingcong Li , Antonio Orvieto , Niao He

Recent advances in spectral optimization, notably Muon, have demonstrated that constraining update steps to the Stiefel manifold can significantly accelerate training and improve generalization. However, Muon implicitly assumes an isotropic…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-04-02 Yechen Zhang , Shuhao Xing , Junhao Huang , Kai Lv , Yunhua Zhou , Xipeng Qiu , Qipeng Guo , Kai Chen

We demonstrate that Muon, the simplest instantiation of a second-order optimizer, explicitly expands the Pareto frontier over AdamW on the compute-time tradeoff. We find that Muon is more effective than AdamW in retaining data efficiency at…

Recent empirical research has demonstrated that deep learning optimizers based on the linear minimization oracle (LMO) over specifically chosen Non-Euclidean norm balls, such as Muon and Scion, outperform Adam-type methods in the training…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-12-19 Xun Qian , Hussein Rammal , Dmitry Kovalev , Peter Richtárik