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Recent empirical research has demonstrated that deep learning optimizers based on the linear minimization oracle (LMO) over specifically chosen Non-Euclidean norm balls, such as Muon and Scion, outperform Adam-type methods in the training…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2025-12-19 Xun Qian , Hussein Rammal , Dmitry Kovalev , Peter Richtárik

Applying weight decay (WD) to matrix layers is standard practice in large-language-model pretraining. Prior work suggests that stochastic gradient noise induces a Brownian-like expansion of the weight matrices W, whose growth is…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-01-09 Maksim Velikanov , Ilyas Chahed , Jingwei Zuo , Dhia Eddine Rhaiem , Younes Belkada , Hakim Hacid

Gradient orthogonalization is a simple strategy that shows great utility in speeding up gradient descent. The Muon optimizer (Jordan, Jin, et al., 2024) combines gradient orthogonalization with first-order momentum and achieves significant…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-21 Ahmed Khaled , Kaan Ozkara , Tao Yu , Mingyi Hong , Youngsuk Park

For a long period of time, Adam has served as the ubiquitous default choice for training deep neural networks. Recently, many new optimizers have been introduced, out of which Muon has perhaps gained the highest popularity due to its…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-03-03 Sara Dragutinović , Rajesh Ranganath

The Muon optimizer has rapidly emerged as a powerful, geometry-aware alternative to AdamW, demonstrating strong performance in large-scale training of neural networks. However, a critical theory-practice disconnect exists: Muon's efficiency…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-24 Egor Shulgin , Sultan AlRashed , Francesco Orabona , Peter Richtárik

The Muon optimizer has demonstrated strong empirical performance in pre-training large language models by performing matrix-level gradient (or momentum) orthogonalization in each layer independently. In this work, we propose TEON, a…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-03 Ruijie Zhang , Yequan Zhao , Ziyue Liu , Zhengyang Wang , Dongyang Li , Yupeng Su , Sijia Liu , Zheng Zhang

Muon and related normalized optimizers decouple the choice of update direction from the choice of step scale, but their practical performance remains sensitive to the scale of the normalized step. We study adaptive scaling rules for Muon in…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-20 Yury Demidovich , Abhishek Chakraborty , Grigory Malinovsky , Angelia Nedić , Peter Richtárik

Efficient stochastic optimization typically integrates an update direction that performs well in the deterministic regime with a mechanism adapting to stochastic perturbations. While Adam uses adaptive moment estimates to promote stability,…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-23 Minxin Zhang , Yuxuan Liu , Hayden Schaeffer

Optimizers are crucial for the efficient training of Large Language Models (LLMs). While AdamW is the de facto standard, recent structure-aware optimizers like Muon have emerged, which regularize gradient updates by operating on entire…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-07 Zehua Liu , Han Wu , Xiaojin Fu , Shuqi Liu , Xiongwei Han , Tao Zhong , Mingxuan Yuan

The training of diffusion models is often absent in the evaluation of new optimization techniques. In this work, we benchmark recent optimization algorithms for training a diffusion model for denoising flow trajectories. We observe that…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-23 Fabian Schaipp

Recently, Muon and related spectral optimizers have demonstrated strong empirical performance as scalable stochastic methods, often outperforming Adam. Yet their behaviour remains poorly understood. We analyze stochastic spectral…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2026-05-12 Elliot Paquette , Noah Marshall , Lucas Benigni , Guangyuan Wang , Atish Agarwala , Courtney Paquette

The recently proposed Muon optimizer updates weight matrices via orthogonalized momentum and has demonstrated strong empirical success in large language model training. However, it remains unclear how to determine the learning rates for…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-09-09 Minxin Zhang , Yuxuan Liu , Hayden Schaeffer

The $\mu$-parameterization ($\mu$P) provides a principled foundation for large language model (LLM) training by prescribing width-independent learning dynamics, which in turn enables predictable scaling behavior and robust hyperparameter…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-01-08 John Zhao

Muon improves neural-network training by orthogonalizing matrix-valued updates, but it leaves each layer's update magnitude controlled mostly by a global learning rate. We introduce OrScale, a trust-ratio extension of Muon built on a simple…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-11 Yuxuan Lou , Yang You

Muon-style optimizers take a matrix-valued momentum or preconditioned update $B = U \operatorname{diag}(\sigma_1,\ldots,\sigma_r) V^\top$ and replace it with its canonical partial polar factor $\operatorname{Pol}(B) = U V^\top$. This maps…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-27 Albert Yi

The recent empirical success of the Muon optimizer has renewed interest in non-Euclidean optimization, typically justified by similarities with second-order methods, and linear minimization oracle (LMO) theory. In this paper, we challenge…

Most first-order optimizers treat matrix-valued parameters as vectors, ignoring the intrinsic geometry of hidden-layer weights in neural networks. Muon addresses this mismatch by updating along the polar factor of a momentum matrix, but its…

Optimization and Control · Mathematics 2026-05-11 Sayantan Choudhury , Xiaoran Cheng , Martin Takáč , Sen Na , Mladen Kolar

The Muon optimizer, based on matrix orthogonalization, has recently shown faster convergence and better computational efficiency over AdamW in LLM pre-training. However, the memory overhead of maintaining high-precision optimizer states…

Matrix-structured parameters frequently appear in many artificial intelligence models such as large language models. More recently, an efficient Muon optimizer is designed for matrix parameters of large-scale models, and shows markedly…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-20 Feihu Huang , Yuning Luo , Songcan Chen

Recommender systems (RecSys) are increasingly emphasizing scaling, leveraging larger architectures and more interaction data to improve personalization. Yet, despite the optimizer's pivotal role in training, modern RecSys pipelines almost…

Information Retrieval · Computer Science 2026-03-03 Rong Shan , Aofan Yu , Bo Chen , Kuo Cai , Qiang Luo , Ruiming Tang , Han Li , Weiwen Liu , Weinan Zhang , Jianghao Lin