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Large Language Models (LLMs) have achieved remarkable success, yet recent findings reveal that their deeper layers often contribute minimally and can be pruned without affecting overall performance. While some view this as an opportunity…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-08-05 Pengxiang Li , Lu Yin , Shiwei Liu

From the perspective of the layer normalization (LN) positions, the architectures of Transformers can be categorized into two types: Post-LN and Pre-LN. Recent Transformers tend to be Pre-LN because, in Post-LN with deep Transformers (e.g.,…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2023-05-29 Sho Takase , Shun Kiyono , Sosuke Kobayashi , Jun Suzuki

Transformer networks have become the preferred architecture for many tasks due to their state-of-the-art performance. However, the optimal way to implement residual connections in Transformer, which are essential for effective training, is…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2023-05-01 Shufang Xie , Huishuai Zhang , Junliang Guo , Xu Tan , Jiang Bian , Hany Hassan Awadalla , Arul Menezes , Tao Qin , Rui Yan

In this paper, we introduce the Curse of Depth, a concept that highlights, explains, and addresses the recent observation in modern Large Language Models (LLMs) where nearly half of the layers are less effective than expected. We first…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-24 Wenfang Sun , Xinyuan Song , Pengxiang Li , Lu Yin , Yefeng Zheng , Shiwei Liu

The success of Large Language Models (LLMs) hinges on the stable training of deep Transformer architectures. A critical design choice is the placement of normalization layers, leading to a fundamental trade-off: the ``PreNorm'' architecture…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2026-02-02 Chao Wang , Bei Li , Jiaqi Zhang , Xinyu Liu , Yuchun Fan , Linkun Lyu , Xin Chen , Jingang Wang , Tong Xiao , Peng Pei , Xunliang Cai

Selecting a layer normalization (LN) strategy that stabilizes training and speeds convergence in Transformers remains difficult, even for today's large language models (LLM). We present a comprehensive analytical foundation for…

One of the core pillars of efficient deep learning methods is architectural improvements such as the residual/skip connection, which has led to significantly better model convergence and quality. Since then the residual connection has…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-06-25 Gaurav Menghani , Ravi Kumar , Sanjiv Kumar

Large Language Models (LLMs) are trained with next-token prediction, implemented in autoregressive Transformers via causal masking for parallelism. This creates a subtle misalignment: residual connections tie activations to the current…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2026-03-03 Jonathan Lys , Vincent Gripon , Bastien Pasdeloup , Axel Marmoret , Lukas Mauch , Fabien Cardinaux , Ghouthi Boukli Hacene

LayerNorm is a critical component in modern large language models (LLMs) for stabilizing training and ensuring smooth optimization. However, it introduces significant challenges in mechanistic interpretability, outlier feature suppression,…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2024-11-19 Nandan Kumar Jha , Brandon Reagen

In spite of their huge success, transformer models remain difficult to scale in depth. In this work, we develop a unified signal propagation theory and provide formulae that govern the moments of the forward and backward signal through the…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2024-07-19 Akhil Kedia , Mohd Abbas Zaidi , Sushil Khyalia , Jungho Jung , Harshith Goka , Haejun Lee

Deep ResNets are recognized for achieving state-of-the-art results in complex machine learning tasks. However, the remarkable performance of these architectures relies on a training procedure that needs to be carefully crafted to avoid…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-03-04 Pierre Marion , Adeline Fermanian , Gérard Biau , Jean-Philippe Vert

Reinforcement learning (RL) post-training for Large Language Models (LLMs) is now scaling to large clusters and running for extended durations to enhance model reasoning performance. However, the scalability of existing RL frameworks is…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-15 Guangming Sheng , Yuxuan Tong , Borui Wan , Wang Zhang , Chaobo Jia , Xibin Wu , Yuqi Wu , Xiang Li , Chi Zhang , Yanghua Peng , Haibin Lin , Xin Liu , Chuan Wu

Modern Large Language Models, such as the LLaMA, Qwen and DeepSeek series, predominantly adopt the Pre-LayerNorm (Pre-LN) Transformer architecture. While being stable during pretraining and scalable to large model sizes, Pre-LN suffers from…

Large Language Models (LLMs) have recently emerged as a powerful paradigm for Knowledge Graph Completion (KGC), offering strong reasoning and generalization capabilities beyond traditional embedding-based approaches. However, existing…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2025-10-14 Wenbin Guo , Xin Wang , Jiaoyan Chen , Lingbing Guo , Zhao Li , Zirui Chen

In this paper, we propose a simple yet effective method to stabilize extremely deep Transformers. Specifically, we introduce a new normalization function (DeepNorm) to modify the residual connection in Transformer, accompanying with…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2022-03-02 Hongyu Wang , Shuming Ma , Li Dong , Shaohan Huang , Dongdong Zhang , Furu Wei

Large language models (LLMs) have demonstrated remarkable capabilities across various domains, yet their application to relational deep learning (RDL) remains underexplored. Existing approaches adapt LLMs by traversing relational links…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2025-06-09 Fang Wu , Vijay Prakash Dwivedi , Jure Leskovec

We study Latent Recurrent Transformer (LRT), a lightweight augmentation of autoregressive transformers that reuses a high-level source-layer hidden state from the previous token as recurrent memory for the next token. Because this source…

Large Language Models (LLMs) have demonstrated remarkable capabilities, yet their scalability raises a critical question: Have we reached the scaling ceiling? This paper addresses this pivotal question by developing a unified theoretical…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2024-12-24 Charles Luo

Training Large Language Models (LLMs) from scratch requires immense computational resources, making it prohibitively expensive. Model scaling-up offers a promising solution by leveraging the parameters of smaller models to create larger…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-02-20 Yifei Yang , Zouying Cao , Xinbei Ma , Yao Yao , Libo Qin , Zhi Chen , Hai Zhao

End-to-end training with full-depth backpropagation remains the dominant paradigm for optimizing deep neural networks, but its efficiency deteriorates as models grow deeper. Since every block must be executed and differentiated under a…

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