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Muon optimizer has demonstrated robust results in pretraining of language models but its performance in finetuning of existing public pretrained models is not yet explored. Currently, Muon is used along with AdamW introducing a scope of…

Computation and Language · Computer Science 2025-11-11 Saurabh Page , Advait Joshi , S. S. Sonawane

Zeroth-order (ZO) optimization provides a gradient-free alternative to first-order (FO) methods by estimating gradients via finite differences of function evaluations, and has recently emerged as a memory-efficient paradigm for fine-tuning…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-24 Yicheng Lang , Changsheng Wang , Yihua Zhang , Mingyi Hong , Zheng Zhang , Wotao Yin , Sijia Liu

Muon-style optimizers take a matrix-valued momentum or preconditioned update $B = U \operatorname{diag}(\sigma_1,\ldots,\sigma_r) V^\top$ and replace it with its canonical partial polar factor $\operatorname{Pol}(B) = U V^\top$. This maps…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-27 Albert Yi

The optimization of large language models (LLMs) remains a critical challenge, particularly as model scaling exacerbates sensitivity to algorithmic imprecision and training instability. Recent advances in optimizers have improved…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-11-26 Wei He , Kai Han , Hang Zhou , Hanting Chen , Zhicheng Liu , Xinghao Chen , Yunhe Wang

Adaptive optimizers such as Adam have achieved great success in training large-scale models like large language models and diffusion models. However, they often generalize worse than non-adaptive methods, such as SGD on classical…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-12-23 Yiheng Zhang , Shaowu Wu , Yuanzhuo Xu , Jiajun Wu , Shang Xu , Steve Drew , Xiaoguang Niu

Muon orthogonalizes matrix updates, but multi-head attention naturally operates at the level of heads. This granularity mismatch raises the question of whether Muon should be applied to the full attention projection, to individual heads, or…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-12 Hongtao Zhang , Wenjie Zhou , Wei Chen , Xueqi Cheng

In this work, we study optimization methods that leverage the linear minimization oracle (LMO) over a norm-ball. We propose a new stochastic family of algorithms that uses the LMO to adapt to the geometry of the problem and, perhaps…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-06-09 Thomas Pethick , Wanyun Xie , Kimon Antonakopoulos , Zhenyu Zhu , Antonio Silveti-Falls , Volkan Cevher

Adaptive optimizers such as Adam have achieved great success in training large-scale models like large language models and diffusion models. However, they often generalize worse than non-adaptive methods, such as SGD on classical…

Artificial Intelligence · Computer Science 2026-05-07 Yiheng Zhang , Kaiyan Zhao , Shaowu Wu , Yiming Wang , Jiajun Wu , Leong Hou U , Steve Drew , Xiaoguang Niu

Multi-Task Learning (MTL) is a foundational machine learning problem that has seen extensive development over the past decade. Recently, various optimization-based MTL approaches have been proposed to learn multiple tasks simultaneously by…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-04-13 Zhipeng Zhou , Linxiao Cao , Pengcheng Wu , Peilin Zhao , Chunyan Miao

Orthonormalized updates accelerate training, improve stability, and enable robust hyperparameter transfer, but existing methods like Muon rely on dense matrix operations that clash with sharded weights in large-scale LLM training, causing…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-09-16 Kwangjun Ahn , Byron Xu , Natalie Abreu , Ying Fan , Gagik Magakyan , Pratyusha Sharma , Zheng Zhan , John Langford

The Muon optimizer enjoys strong empirical performance and theoretical grounding. However, the super-linear cost of its orthonormalization step introduces increasing overhead with scale. To alleviate this cost, several works have attempted…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-12-22 Kwangjun Ahn , Noah Amsel , John Langford

Recommender systems (RecSys) are increasingly emphasizing scaling, leveraging larger architectures and more interaction data to improve personalization. Yet, despite the optimizer's pivotal role in training, modern RecSys pipelines almost…

Information Retrieval · Computer Science 2026-03-03 Rong Shan , Aofan Yu , Bo Chen , Kuo Cai , Qiang Luo , Ruiming Tang , Han Li , Weiwen Liu , Weinan Zhang , Jianghao Lin

Muon has recently shown promising results in LLM training. In this work, we study how to further improve Muon. We argue that Muon's orthogonalized update rule suppresses the emergence of heavy-tailed weight spectra and over-emphasizes the…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-25 Tianyu Pang , Yujie Fang , Zihang Liu , Shenyang Deng , Lei Hsiung , Shuhua Yu , Yaoqing Yang

We analyze Muon as originally proposed and used in practice -- using the momentum orthogonalization with a few Newton-Schulz steps. The prior theoretical results replace this key step in Muon with an exact SVD-based polar factor. We prove…

Machine Learning · Statistics 2026-01-28 Gyu Yeol Kim , Min-hwan Oh

Muon orthogonalizes the momentum buffer before each update, replacing its singular values with ones via Newton-Schulz iterations. This simple change lets Muon tolerate far larger learning rates and converge faster than other optimizers, but…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-14 Tien-Phat Nguyen , Truong Nguyen , Minh-Phuc Truong , Tuc Nguyen , James Bailey , Trung Le

Physics-informed neural networks and neural operators often suffer from severe optimization difficulties caused by ill-conditioned gradients, multi-scale spectral behavior, and stiffness induced by physical constraints. Recently, the Muon…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-19 Binghang Lu , Jiahao Zhang , Guang Lin

Learning to Optimize (LtO) is a problem setting in which a machine learning (ML) model is trained to emulate a constrained optimization solver. Learning to produce optimal and feasible solutions subject to complex constraints is a difficult…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2024-03-18 James Kotary , Ferdinando Fioretto

While adaptive gradient methods are the workhorse of modern machine learning, sign-based optimization algorithms such as Lion and Muon have recently demonstrated superior empirical performance over AdamW in training large language models…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-11 Dingzhi Yu , Hongyi Tao , Yuanyu Wan , Luo Luo , Lijun Zhang

This paper investigates the impact of different optimizers on the grokking phenomenon, where models exhibit delayed generalization. We conducted experiments across seven numerical tasks (primarily modular arithmetic) using a modern…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-04-23 Amund Tveit , Bjørn Remseth , Arve Skogvold

Matrix-based optimizers have demonstrated immense potential in training Large Language Models (LLMs), however, designing an ideal optimizer remains a formidable challenge. A superior optimizer must satisfy three core desiderata: efficiency,…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-06 Jinghui Yuan , Jiaxuan Zou , Shuo Wang , Yong Liu , Feiping Nie