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The Muon optimizer has recently offered a promising alternative to AdamW for large language model training, leveraging matrix orthogonalization to produce geometry-aware updates. However, like all first-order methods, Muon can become…

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Reinforcement learning (RL), particularly RL from verifiable reward (RLVR), has become a crucial phase of training large language models (LLMs) and a key focus of current scaling efforts. However, optimization practices in RL largely follow…

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This paper investigates the impact of different optimizers on the grokking phenomenon, where models exhibit delayed generalization. We conducted experiments across seven numerical tasks (primarily modular arithmetic) using a modern…

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Modern information retrieval systems often employ a two-stage pipeline: an efficient initial retrieval stage followed by a computationally intensive reranking stage. Cross-encoders have shown strong effectiveness for reranking due to their…

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A central question in modern deep learning is how to design optimizers whose behavior remains stable as the network width $w$ increases. We address this question by interpreting several widely used neural-network optimizers, including…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-03-11 Ruihan Xu , Jiajin Li , Yiping Lu

Training large language models (LLMs) typically relies on adaptive optimizers like Adam (Kingma & Ba, 2015) which store additional state information to accelerate convergence but incur significant memory overhead. Recent efforts, such as…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-02-11 Meyer Scetbon , Chao Ma , Wenbo Gong , Edward Meeds

The Muon optimizer, based on matrix orthogonalization, has recently shown faster convergence and better computational efficiency over AdamW in LLM pre-training. However, the memory overhead of maintaining high-precision optimizer states…

As optimizers are critical to the performances of neural networks, every year a large number of papers innovating on the subject are published. However, while most of these publications provide incremental improvements to existing…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2021-08-10 Less Wright , Nestor Demeure

The impressive performance of large language models (LLMs) arises from their massive scale and heterogeneous module composition. However, this structural heterogeneity introduces additional optimization challenges. While adaptive optimizers…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-08 Ziqing Wen , Zhouyang Liu , Jiahuan Wang , Ping Luo , Li Shen , Dongsheng Li , Tao Sun

Matrix-based optimizers have attracted growing interest for improving LLM training efficiency, with significant progress centered on orthogonalization/whitening based methods. While yielding substantial performance gains, a fundamental…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-10 Wenbo Gong , Javier Zazo , Qijun Luo , Puqian Wang , James Hensman , Chao Ma

The rapid progress of large language models (LLMs) is increasingly constrained by memory and deployment costs, motivating compression methods for practical deployment. Many state-of-the-art compression pipelines leverage the low-rank…

Large-batch training has become a cornerstone in accelerating the training of deep neural networks, yet it poses challenges in optimization and generalization. Existing optimizers like AdamW present performance degradation during language…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-08-29 Yang Luo , Zangwei Zheng , Ziheng Qin , Zirui Zhu , Yong Liu , Yang You

Over-parameterized deep networks trained using gradient-based optimizers are a popular choice for solving classification and ranking problems. Without appropriately tuned $\ell_2$ regularization or weight decay, such networks have the…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2021-08-13 Aman Gupta , Rohan Ramanath , Jun Shi , Anika Ramachandran , Sirou Zhou , Mingzhou Zhou , S. Sathiya Keerthi

DiLoCo is a powerful framework for training large language models (LLMs), enabling larger optimal batch sizes and increased accelerator utilization under networking constraints. However, DiLoCo's performance has been shown to degrade as the…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-02-26 Benjamin Thérien , Xiaolong Huang , Aaron Defazio , Irina Rish , Eugene Belilovsky

The recently proposed Muon optimizer updates weight matrices via orthogonalized momentum and has demonstrated strong empirical success in large language model training. However, it remains unclear how to determine the learning rates for…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-09-09 Minxin Zhang , Yuxuan Liu , Hayden Schaeffer

Modern deep learning commonly relies on AdamW with prescribed learning rate schedules, but recent works challenge both components: Schedule-Free optimization removes explicit schedules via iterate averaging, and Muon improves the update…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-22 Jueun Kim , Baekrok Shin , Jihun Yun , Beomhan Baek , Minhak Song , Chulhee Yun

The Muon optimizer has rapidly emerged as a powerful, geometry-aware alternative to AdamW, demonstrating strong performance in large-scale training of neural networks. However, a critical theory-practice disconnect exists: Muon's efficiency…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-24 Egor Shulgin , Sultan AlRashed , Francesco Orabona , Peter Richtárik

The Muon optimizer is consistently faster than Adam in training Large Language Models (LLMs), yet the mechanism underlying its success remains unclear. This paper demystifies this mechanism through the lens of associative memory. By…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-10-07 Shuche Wang , Fengzhuo Zhang , Jiaxiang Li , Cunxiao Du , Chao Du , Tianyu Pang , Zhuoran Yang , Mingyi Hong , Vincent Y. F. Tan

Training large language models (LLMs) poses challenges due to their massive scale and heterogeneous architectures. While adaptive optimizers like AdamW help address gradient variations, they still struggle with efficient and effective…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2025-06-03 Siyuan Li , Juanxi Tian , Zedong Wang , Xin Jin , Zicheng Liu , Wentao Zhang , Dan Xu

Matrix-based optimizers have demonstrated immense potential in training Large Language Models (LLMs), however, designing an ideal optimizer remains a formidable challenge. A superior optimizer must satisfy three core desiderata: efficiency,…

Machine Learning · Computer Science 2026-05-06 Jinghui Yuan , Jiaxuan Zou , Shuo Wang , Yong Liu , Feiping Nie