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Variational principles for fully coupled stochastic fluid dynamics across scales

Fluid Dynamics 2025-03-21 v2 Mathematical Physics math.MP

Abstract

This work investigates variational frameworks for modeling stochastic dynamics in incompressible fluids, focusing on large-scale fluid behavior alongside small-scale stochastic processes. The authors aim to develop a coupled system of equations that captures both scales, using a variational principle formulated with Lagrangians defined on the full flow, and incorporating stochastic transport constraints. The approach smooths the noise term along time, leading to stochastic dynamics as a regularization parameter approaches zero. Initially, fixed noise terms are considered, resulting in a generalized stochastic Euler equation, which becomes problematic as the regularization parameter diminishes. The study then examines connections with existing stochastic frameworks and proposes a new variational principle that couples noise dynamics with large-scale fluid motion. This comprehensive framework provides a stochastic representation of large-scale dynamics while accounting for fine-scale components. Our main result is that the evolution of the small-scale velocity component is governed by a linearized Euler equation with random coefficients, influenced by large-scale transport, stretching, and pressure forcing.

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@article{arxiv.2409.12654,
  title  = {Variational principles for fully coupled stochastic fluid dynamics across scales},
  author = {Arnaud Debussche and Etienne Mémin},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2409.12654},
  year   = {2025}
}
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