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The threshold for quantum-classical correspondence is $D \sim \hbar^{\frac43}$

Quantum Physics 2025-12-22 v1 Mathematical Physics Analysis of PDEs math.MP

Abstract

In chaotic quantum systems, an initially localized quantum state can deviate strongly from the corresponding classical phase-space distribution after the Ehrenfest time tElog(1)t_{\mathrm{E}} \sim \log(\hbar^{-1}), even in the limit 0\hbar \to 0. Decoherence by the environment is often invoked to explain the persistence of the quantum-classical correspondence at longer timescales. Recent rigorous results for Lindblad dynamics with phase-space diffusion strength DD show that quantum and classical evolutions remain close for times that are exponentially longer than the Ehrenfest time whenever D43D \gg \hbar^{\frac43}, in units set by the classical Hamiltonian. At the same time, some heuristic arguments have suggested the weaker condition D2D \gg \hbar^{2} always suffices. Here we construct an explicit Lindbladian that demonstrates that the scaling D43D \sim \hbar^{\frac43} is indeed the threshold for quantum-classical correspondence beyond the Ehrenfest time. Our example uses a smooth time-dependent Hamiltonian and linear Lindblad operators generating homogeneous isotropic diffusion. It exhibits an \hbar-independent quantum-classical discrepancy at the Ehrenfest time whenever D43D \ll \hbar^{\frac43}, even for \hbar-independent "macroscopic" smooth observables.

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@article{arxiv.2512.17623,
  title  = {The threshold for quantum-classical correspondence is $D \sim \hbar^{\frac43}$},
  author = {Felipe Hernández and Daniel Ranard and C. Jess Riedel},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2512.17623},
  year   = {2025}
}

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28 pages, 4 figures

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