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Stable complete coordinates for multisets of points via basic $r$-symmetric tropical polynomials

Discrete Mathematics 2026-06-29 v1 Algebraic Geometry Combinatorics Metric Geometry

Abstract

A multiset of nn unordered points in Rr\mathbb{R}^r -- a point cloud, or, for r=2r=2, a persistence barcode of birth-death pairs -- is a point of the orbit space Rnr/Sn\mathbb{R}^{nr}/S_n for the symmetric group SnS_n permuting the rows of an n×rn \times r matrix; a separating family of invariants on this space is exactly a complete set of permutation-independent coordinates. We provide one that is explicit, small, and stable, in the max-plus (tropical) setting: for all n1n \geq 1 and r1r \geq 1, the (n+rr)\binom{n+r}{r} basic rr-symmetric tropical polynomials, of degree at most nn, separate the orbits of SnS_n on Rnr\mathbb{R}^{nr}. This settles in full a problem left open in [Kubo, J. Pure Appl. Algebra 223 (2019) 72-85], where separation was known only for r=2r=2 and special cases of r3r \geq 3, and yields a family far smaller and of lower degree than the general separating sets from Derksen's recent theory of tropical invariants for permutation actions (nr+(nr)!/n!nr + (nr)!/n! invariants of degree O(n2r2)O(n^2 r^2)). The proof is elementary and constructive: the basic values are identified with a transportation problem, and the multiset is recovered from the dual by an explicit algorithm. We further show the coordinate map is a bi-Lipschitz embedding for all nn and rr, being an injective max filter bank (via the bi-Lipschitz theory of max filtering), with an explicit Lipschitz constant for the forward bound and a fully explicit, dimension-free distortion when r=1r=1. Finally we determine when the pairwise values suffice (exactly n3n \leq 3) and show that invariants on at least three columns and of degree less than nn are necessary in general, the obstruction being a standard non-uniqueness configuration from discrete tomography.

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@article{arxiv.2606.30184,
  title  = {Stable complete coordinates for multisets of points via basic $r$-symmetric tropical polynomials},
  author = {Susumu Kubo},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2606.30184},
  year   = {2026}
}

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