Some applications of the real strict order property hierarchy
Abstract
We give applications of the properties for non-integer values of to problems on the original hierarchy for integer values of . We first show that the properties , previously defined for real values , are even well-defined for real values , showing that for our original definition of even when . As a consequence, newness of all of the well-defined properties for non-integer would negatively resolve the problem of whether is equal to . We then prove an approximate alternative between two possibilities: (1) that in extending Shelah's original hierarchy for integers to the hierarchy for reals , we really did introduce new classification-theoretic properties, and (2) that for integers , which would resolve a central open problem in classification theory. More precisely, we give a rigorous sense in which (1) can fail on particularly general grounds, and then show that if (1) fails for these general reasons, (2) must be true. Finally, we apply cycle-removal techniques from the theory of the properties for real-values of to make progress on the question of whether is equal to . We (a) show that if is a hereditary class of structures defined by finitely many forbidden weakly embedded substructures, if every theory whose models have age has , then every theory whose models have age has , and (b) observe that we cannot replace with here.
Cite
@article{arxiv.2606.28740,
title = {Some applications of the real strict order property hierarchy},
author = {Scott Mutchnik},
journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2606.28740},
year = {2026}
}
Comments
74 pages, two sidebars, one appendix