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On Ulam widths of finitely presented infinite simple groups

Group Theory 2026-01-23 v2

Abstract

A fundamental notion in group theory, which originates in an article of Ulam and von Neumann from 19471947 is uniform simplicity. A group GG is said to be nn-uniformly simple for nNn \in \mathbf{N} if for every f,gG{id}f,g\in G\setminus \{id\}, there is a product of no more than nn conjugates of gg and g1g^{-1} that equals ff. Then GG is uniformly simple if it is nn-uniformly simple for some nNn \in \mathbf{N}, and we refer to the smallest such nn as the Ulam width, denoted as R(G)\mathcal{R}(G). If GG is simple but not uniformly simple, one declares R(G)=\mathcal{R}(G)=\infty. In this article, we construct for each nNn\in \mathbf{N}, a finitely presented infinite simple group GG such that n<R(G)<n<\mathcal{R}(G)<\infty. These are the first such examples among the class of finitely presented infinite simple groups. For the class of finitely generated (but not finitely presentable) infinite simple groups, the existence of such examples was settled in the work of Muranov. However, this had remained open for the class of finitely presented infinite simple groups. Our examples are also of type FF_{\infty}, which means that they are fundamental groups of aspherical CW complexes with finitely many cells in each dimension. Uniformly simple groups are in particular uniformly perfect: there is an nNn\in \mathbf{N} such that every element of the group can be expressed as a product of at most nn commutators of elements in the group. We also show that the analogous notion of width for uniform perfection is unbounded for our family of finitely presented infinite simple groups. To our knowledge, this is also the first such family.

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@article{arxiv.2410.07512,
  title  = {On Ulam widths of finitely presented infinite simple groups},
  author = {James Hyde and Yash Lodha},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2410.07512},
  year   = {2026}
}

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27 pages. Final version accepted for publication in Advances in Math

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