English

On commensurators of free groups and free pro-p groups

Group Theory 2025-09-09 v2

Abstract

We study the commensurators of free groups and free pro-pp groups, as well as certain subgroups of these. We prove that the commensurator Comm(F)Comm(F) of a non-abelian free group of finite rank FF is not virtually simple, answering a question of Lubotzky. On the other hand, we exhibit a family of easy-to-define finitely generated subgroups of Comm(F)Comm(F) and show that some groups in this family are simple. For a prime pp, we also consider the p-commensurator Commp(F)Comm_p(F), which is the commensurator of FF viewed as a group with pro-pp topology. By contrast with Comm(F)Comm(F), we prove that Commp(F)Comm_p(F) has a simple subgroup of index at most 2. Further, while the isomorphism class of Comm(F)Comm(F) does not depend on the rank of FF, we prove that the isomorphism class of Commp(F)Comm_p(F) depends on the rank of FF and determine the exact dependency. If F\mathbf F is the pro-pp completion of FF (which is a free pro-pp group), Comm(F)Comm(\mathbf F) is a totally disconnected locally compact (tdlc) group containing F\mathbf F as an open subgroup. We use Commp(F)Comm_p(F) to construct an abstractly simple subgroup of Comm(F)Comm(\mathbf F) containing F\mathbf F as well as a family of non-discrete tdlc groups which are compactly generated and simple.

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@article{arxiv.2507.04120,
  title  = {On commensurators of free groups and free pro-p groups},
  author = {Yiftach Barnea and Mikhail Ershov and Adrien Le Boudec and Colin D. Reid and Matteo Vannacci and Thomas Weigel},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2507.04120},
  year   = {2025}
}

Comments

57 pages. v2: minor changes (primarily in sections 2 and 10), submitted for publication