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Free Independence is not definable

Operator Algebras 2026-02-25 v2 Logic

Abstract

Free independence is an important tool for studying the structure of operator algebras. It is natural to ask from the model-theoretic standpoint whether free independence is captured well in first-order model theory via the notion of a definable set. We prove that pairs of freely independent elements do not form a definable set in the sense of continuous model theory, relative to the theory of both C^*-probability spaces and tracial von Neumann algebras.

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@article{arxiv.2510.04836,
  title  = {Free Independence is not definable},
  author = {William Boulanger and Jakub Curda and Emma Harvey and Yizhi Li and Jennifer Pi},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2510.04836},
  year   = {2026}
}

Comments

Author-accepted manuscript; to appear in "Involve, a Journal of Mathematics"

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