English

Erd\H{o}s--Szekeres-type problems in the real projective plane

Combinatorics 2022-09-07 v2 Computational Geometry

Abstract

We consider point sets in the real projective plane RP2\mathbb{R}P^2 and explore variants of classical extremal problems about planar point sets in this setting, with a main focus on Erd\H{o}s--Szekeres-type problems. We provide asymptotically tight bounds for a variant of the Erd\H{o}s--Szekeres theorem about point sets in convex position in RP2\mathbb{R}P^2, which was initiated by Harborth and M\"oller in 1994. The notion of convex position in RP2\mathbb{R}P^2 agrees with the definition of convex sets introduced by Steinitz in 1913. For k3k \geq 3, an (\affine) kk-hole in a finite set SR2S \subseteq \mathbb{R}^2 is a set of kk points from SS in convex position with no point of SS in the interior of their convex hull. After introducing a new notion of kk-holes for points sets from RP2\mathbb{R}P^2, called projective kk-holes, we find arbitrarily large finite sets of points from RP2\mathbb{R}P^2 with no \projective 8-holes, providing an analogue of a classical planar construction by Horton from 1983. We also prove that they contain only quadratically many \projective kk-holes for k7k \leq 7. On the other hand, we show that the number of kk-holes can be substantially larger in~RP2\mathbb{R}P^2 than in R2\mathbb{R}^2 by constructing, for every k{3,,6}k \in \{3,\dots,6\}, sets of nn points from R2RP2\mathbb{R}^2 \subset \mathbb{R}P^2 with Ω(n33/5k)\Omega(n^{3-3/5k}) \projective kk-holes and only O(n2)O(n^2) \affine kk-holes. Last but not least, we prove several other results, for example about projective holes in random point sets in RP2\mathbb{R}P^2 and about some algorithmic aspects. The study of extremal problems about point sets in RP2\mathbb{R}P^2 opens a new area of research, which we support by posing several open problems.

Keywords

Cite

@article{arxiv.2203.07518,
  title  = {Erd\H{o}s--Szekeres-type problems in the real projective plane},
  author = {Martin Balko and Manfred Scheucher and Pavel Valtr},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2203.07518},
  year   = {2022}
}

Comments

The extended abstract appeared at the 38th International Symposium on Computational Geometry (SoCG 2022)

R2 v1 2026-06-24T10:13:12.146Z