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Cut-and-choose games in topological spaces

General Topology 2025-10-16 v2

Abstract

We study transfinite cut-and-choose games on T0T_0 spaces, introducing the {\em point-separating number} ps(X)ps(X) and the {\em set membership number} sm(X){sm}(X) as the ordinal-valued invariants measuring the minimal length of a game in which a Seeker can determine a hidden point or subset. A central motivating question is which countable ordinals can occur as the value of ps(X)ps(X), in particular whether any countable ordinal can arise. These invariants generalize Scott's T0T_0-pseudoweight ψw0\psi w_0. We establish fundamental inequalities relating ps(X)ps(X), sm(X){sm}(X), ψw0(X)\psi w_0(X), and X|X|, including the sharp bounds X2ps(X)|X|\le 2^{ps(X)} and ψw0(X)2<ps(X)\psi w_0(X)\le 2^{<ps(X)}. We compute these invariants for familiar spaces such as Cantor cubes, powers of the Alexandroff double arrow space, and certain stationary subsets of cardinals. We further investigate their behavior under topological sums and products, revealing the striking contrast between psps and sm{sm}. For metric spaces, we determine that ps(X)=logXps(X)=\log|X|. However, we do not know such computation for sm(X){sm}(X); we can only assert that sm(X){sm}(X) may be arbitrarily large. Finally, we highlight another open problem: whether these games are always determined.

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@article{arxiv.2510.05754,
  title  = {Cut-and-choose games in topological spaces},
  author = {Lucas Chiozini and Tamás Csernák and Lajos Soukup},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:2510.05754},
  year   = {2025}
}

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16 pages, minor corrections,