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Chain conditions, elementary amenable groups, and descriptive set theory

Group Theory 2015-02-06 v4 Logic

Abstract

We first consider three well-known chain conditions in the space of marked groups: the minimal condition on centralizers, the maximal condition on subgroups, and the maximal condition on normal subgroups. For each condition, we produce a characterization in terms of well-founded descriptive-set-theoretic trees. Using these characterizations, we demonstrate that the sets given by these conditions are co-analytic and not Borel in the space of marked groups. We then adapt our techniques to show elementary amenable marked groups may be characterized by well-founded descriptive-set-theoretic trees, and therefore, elementary amenability is equivalent to a chain condition. Our characterization again implies the set of elementary amenable groups is co-analytic and non-Borel. As corollary, we obtain a new, non-constructive, proof of the existence of finitely generated amenable groups that are not elementary amenable.

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@article{arxiv.1410.0975,
  title  = {Chain conditions, elementary amenable groups, and descriptive set theory},
  author = {Phillip Wesolek and Jay Williams},
  journal= {arXiv preprint arXiv:1410.0975},
  year   = {2015}
}

Comments

Submitted version. Lemmas in elementary amenable section revised

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